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Astroid
21-08-2006, 08:47 AM
just brought a vw trike project needs a lot of work but there again not paid a lot of cash for it so thought i'd post a pic let you all have look.
i think its got protental want turn into 2/3 seater but been told may need wheelie bars as they like to lift of the ground a lot.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/Astroid2003/DSCF0043.jpg
well what u think ????
minxy
21-08-2006, 08:56 AM
Get wheelie bars! Feck all weight on the front.
Definitely got potential. Peculiar frame!
Astroid
21-08-2006, 08:59 AM
yeah i know pick it up with one hand and no effort....
Instead of air try mercury in your front tyre..... :)
Astroid
21-08-2006, 11:41 AM
hers some more photo's http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/Astroid2003/DSCF0046.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/Astroid2003/DSCF0045.jpg
dont know much about vw so steep learning curve coming up let alone first trike i've ever had all i know is its a air cooled but plan to have on road for next spring i'll post more pic as i mod it and let you see how it turns out.
anyone with any idea's on how to make it 2 seater with full harness in rear + needing storage space for large tent ect... would be gratefull
thanks in advance...
John Hopkins
23-08-2006, 11:37 AM
Never built a trike, don't know what I am talking about, but that hasn't stopped me yet so here goes.
Hope you didnt spend much because, as it is with you sitting in the back every time you open the throttle the front wheel will fight to stay on the ground, add a double seat and it will turn summersaults, put a tent and stuff on the back and it will be a two wheeler, put another big engine in the frame to hold down the front and the power to weight ratio will slow it down to tractor speeds. Now all you trike builders can shoot me down.. :) John
cut it in half just in front of the torsion bars, add about 18" to 2' in, so the back of your dual seat is a little bit forward of the back of the seat now, (if you see what i mean...), would help, slinging a lorry battery between the lower frame rails cant hurt, either.
lots of room for camping gear below the goose-neck.
very 1970's, innit, just crying out for lots of maltese crosses and a course metalflake paint-job! :D
hermann
23-08-2006, 12:29 PM
Whats the seating position like? Looks like you'd be leaning forward quite a way to reach those bars and with where I would guess the pegs would go ou'd end p in a bit of a penknife type position
Puppydawg
23-08-2006, 02:05 PM
Probably a daft idea but couldn't you make a rack in the front of the frame, when loaded for a rally would make the front end heavy, when not going to a rally put a battery in there as suggested earlier !
chazz
23-08-2006, 02:09 PM
dont know much about frame engineering but them bends on the gooseneck look dodgy
Puppydawg
23-08-2006, 02:15 PM
Just looked at the pictures again, wouldn't it be possible to take the tank away, cut the upper part of the frame off and lower it enough to move the riders seat forward, you'd obviously still have to brace the top end but should be able to from beneath the seat, you should still have enough room under the riders seat to put a tank in which would add weight to the front end and moving the seat should give you a better position for the dual seat on the back.
Go on then someone who really knows what they're talking about rip the **** out of all that now :D
Astroid
23-08-2006, 03:06 PM
well i've got to move the tank it's in a really bad postion and the fact unless your arms are 6foot long very uncomfortable, as for the double seat i've decided to make it a two seater so i can have more room for other stuff. only paid £450-00 for it so dont mind spending a bit cash to get it finished right, but the lack ov weight in the front is probley the biggest concern.
does anyone know what the biggest type of wheels would fit on the hubs without having to change the hubs.?
£450?? engine and gearbox are worth (if it runs ok) T2???
does anyone know what the biggest type of wheels would fit on the hubs without having to change the hubs.?
you can fit pretty much any wheels you like, just spin up a pair of adaptor plates. i did fit merc wheels to a camper once, so i know the studs line up for them.....
reworking the top of the frame wouldn't cost that much.
Astroid
23-08-2006, 03:50 PM
thanks for info on wheels rob, i thinks it a t1 single port but not 100% will no more once i get it back as it's over the old owners yard at the mo i just need to clear some space so i can get it back then i'll no more i.e. engine type ect. it was running a couple of months ago untill the bits were striped of it needs small things like ht leads and battery.
never owned or worked on a beatle or a vw come to think of it, so dont know alot about them. but have found that parts r cheap :) so at least that's something good for a change... :)
That dont look like a single port to me. Looks like a T2 camper 1600 to me.
Reliantman
23-08-2006, 05:01 PM
I seem to remember a firm from Cornwall made frames like that. Can't remember the name but there was a write-up in BSH about them many years back. That goose neck was a sort of trade mark for them.
You could try loading the front frame with some plate, tastefully done of course.
Astroid
23-08-2006, 05:56 PM
it's a 1300 pyro so i just asumed it's single port
Astroid
30-09-2006, 08:47 AM
well trike is now back it's a 1300 t1 twin port pyro.
since i've got it back i now completely striped it down and removed every thing from the front of the torsion bar and replaced it. was'nt going to go to that extreme but found as i was removing some of the frame work that some of the tubeing had been butt welded together ( not good) so decided to remove the lot and start again. took a couple of pics today so you can see how its getting on also had to replace the headstock as found a crack in it after removing the paint.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/Astroid2003/DSCF0062.jpg
the tank and seat r only there as a mockup to give me an idea of how everything is going to fit. i think it looks a lot better now...
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/Astroid2003/DSCF0060.jpg
baldybongo
30-09-2006, 09:47 AM
Thats better
yep much better
I like that
Yoda
martindodger
30-09-2006, 05:58 PM
Sorry, but i think the original design was much better looks like the rest of em now. KEYWORD.......Original.
As for wheelies. REACH FOR THE SKY. THOUGHT TRIKING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN. :confused:
Astroid
30-09-2006, 07:44 PM
the origanl look may ov been ok if you were 7 foot tall just so you could reach the bars and the tank would ov done someserious damage if in an crash, then the tubing had'nt been welded properly so would of prob fell apart on the first trip. but will look a lot better when the rest of the metal work is done and the storage units put in.
johnr
30-09-2006, 08:24 PM
it hiddeous, i hope it was cheap!!!! is it registered? as a trike? if not as a trike, then you still have the car log book? exhaust will be torn off the first time you snap the throttle open. wheelie bars are a necessity on a veedub trike like that, simply cos without them when you open the throttle and the front pops up, first thing you will hear is the exhaust being chewed up, and if the exhaust isnt there to protect the engine, the first part of that to touch down is the bottom of the crank cases where the oil pump lives, and the cover of the oil pump is only pressed steel, so it dont take too much abuse to leave a trail of 20/50 in the road!!!
if you like it, then fine, its your trike!! what motor is it though, theyre all pretty gutless, and you should expect low 20's mpg!!
johnr
30-09-2006, 08:26 PM
ohhh, now then, my pc wouldnt show me your second lot of pics, now ive closed the window and re opened it, yes, thats a lot better, frame looks shedloads better, and its in danger of probably handling a bit now!!!!!!
yer going to need a bigger tank than that though, cos them veedubs can sup petrol, unless you like stopping at every single petrol station you see!!!!!
Astroid
30-09-2006, 09:17 PM
yeah the sportster tank only there as mock up will prob be fitting a 4.5 mustang tank or maybe lager depending on cash flow at time.
fobonarex
01-10-2006, 02:10 AM
cracking job so far,i think thats £450 well spent,good luck with the rest of the build.
yeah the sportster tank only there as mock up will prob be fitting a 4.5 mustang tank or maybe lager depending on cash flow at time.
7 gallon fatbobs from J W Motorcycles (http://www.jwmotorcycles.com/)
martindodger
01-10-2006, 09:11 AM
Storage units ? thats what comes with kitchens. Better off with an estate car :)
Friar Tuck
02-10-2006, 05:29 AM
well trike is now back it's a 1300 t1 twin port pyro.
since i've got it back i now completely striped it down and removed every thing from the front of the torsion bar and replaced it. was'nt going to go to that extreme but found as i was removing some of the frame work that some of the tubeing had been butt welded together ( not good) so decided to remove the lot and start again. took a couple of pics today so you can see how its getting on also had to replace the headstock as found a crack in it after removing the paint.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/Astroid2003/DSCF0062.jpg
the tank and seat r only there as a mockup to give me an idea of how everything is going to fit. i think it looks a lot better now...
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/Astroid2003/DSCF0060.jpg
I spy with my little eye, left hand side of the photo, and engine in a frame not doing a lot! Have you got plans for it? and what is it?
You've certainly tidied that trike up a bit!
Astroid
02-10-2006, 07:18 AM
it's a xj600s diversion and i'm going to custom it and it's going to my mate who been helping me to build the trike. going to streach the swing arm by 2inchs and either move the shock back at more ov an angle so we can put a lower seat pan in or remove it completly and put twim coil over shocks on also changing the tank for a teardrop / mustang tank.:)
Friar Tuck
03-10-2006, 05:23 AM
Oh! Was just asking like! :)
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