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rob
28-08-2006, 09:05 PM
so, i ambled down the workshop this morning about 10ish, bikes off the road til the end of the week due to an ordering faux par by me; i'm re-making the steering 'scissor' on my bike at the mo, (the angled bit that sticks out the front above the front wheel), replacing the present 30 year old reliant kitten track rod ends and suspension linkage from a gsxr400 with a nice groovy rose jointy thing, (pics later...), but for some reason i only ordered 4 rose joints when i need 8 :o . Nick is busy doing the bodywork/filler on the ST1100 trike so we can start re-assembly on weds, and we took an order for another trike on saturday, (another ST1100, supercharged, IRS at the back and one of my wishbone front ends, (not single sided tho)). but we dont get the deposit for a fortnight.
anyway, so there i was, all fired up, with not much to do, looking at all the bits and pieces lying around, like you do...... 'theres enough here to build something' i thought, so dragged a few bits out....
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/Picture045.jpg


the frame had an old suzuki 400 twin in it at some stage.

i'm sure blackjack has probably posted about this somewhere, but if you are building a frame/adding gusset plates, DO NOT DO IT LIKE THIS!!...
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/Picture046.jpg

after fiddling about with the 1200 bandit back wheel for about 1/2hr, i decided not to use it, and set to work...
cut the hardtail off and cut out the cradle from the frame, leaving the headstock, backbone, swing-arm pivot and rear engine mounts. found an old swing-arm, (dunno what it's off), bored the spindle holes in the frame out to suit the arm's spindle, put a zx6r wheel in the back, (filed out the slots in the arm to take the spindle and modified a pair of gsxr750 chain adjusters to fit into the swing-arm). made a shock top-mount, bunged in an old shock off an ST1100.
then offered up the zx6r engine, and both upper and lower rear engine mounts lined up!! :). bunged the zx6r front end on, and mucked about trying 1/2 a doz or so tanks..
settled on one off an old Z of some sort. then found a suitable seat, and made the sub-frame out of the bits i cut out of the frame earlier, (waste not, want not). welded on a side stand and some footrest hangers, and bobs your uncle, a bike!!...
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/Picture048.jpg
there is enough room under the tank for all the electrix and (hopefully) the battery, so nice and tidy wiring, jobs left to do??
from the front...
take the calipers off the RF and put them back onto these forks, dig out some braided hoses and bleed 'em up. find a headlight, turn up a steering stem and find some bearings, sort the loom and the rest of the lights etc, (its B reg, so i dont think it needs indicators). put more frame tube from the bottom of the headstock back to just above the clutch, picking up the mount on the engine by the cams. make some air filters out of stainless t-strainers from woolworths, (!!), ofset the L/H swing-arm pivot on the frame, (same as on the RF) to line the back wheel up, bung a chain on, mount a rear caliper and shorten the exhaust just after where it goes 4:1, so it runs tight to the back of the footpeg and bung the little carbon can (10" long) that i've got knocking about on the end.
i know there is more, but i'm getting bored with typing now!!

so there you have it, a pile of bits to that in 7 hours.
we are shut tuesdays, so hopefully another update weds evening...

Juke
28-08-2006, 10:05 PM
Now that looks like fun.......... :D

Bosun
28-08-2006, 11:18 PM
think i have come over all unecessary :D

Yoda
29-08-2006, 07:27 AM
Now that looks like fun.......... :D
you spelt Fun wrong --- scary :) :)

Nik
29-08-2006, 08:24 AM
Fugg me, you're a talented twat - 7 hours? :eek: :D

rob
29-08-2006, 08:33 AM
not as talented as some on here, more of a twat?? possibly!! :D :p .
my record is 2 days, from standard donor bike to finished GSX1100 hardtail lowrider, including building the frame, painted, ready for MOT. using only a MIG, a 4" grinder and hand tools. :eek: .

Nik
29-08-2006, 08:42 AM
Okay, you're just pissing me off now ... :mad:

The bloke who was doing me Harris engine swap was supposed to have it finished at the beginning of June, but hasn't even touched it. He's only had it since December last year. :(

rob
29-08-2006, 08:45 AM
well, i did offer.... :p

Nik
29-08-2006, 08:46 AM
At the time I thought he was well on wi' it ... :(

devon-tony
29-08-2006, 11:31 AM
love it Rob, sort of what mine would look like if I jacked the back up (lots) LOL, looks pretty tall, must get a pic of it next to mine sometime, my seat height is about 23".

well pleased about the way this area is progressing, discover you just up the road from me, and now a new place howling customs in combe martin, loooks like custom bikes etc in this area might be finally taking off

Blue
29-08-2006, 01:12 PM
Well done chap. I can now understand why, on another forum, you dismissed Vic Jefford's work as 'just tele-forked harley-clone chop/lowriders' . :)

slob
29-08-2006, 01:41 PM
I am absolutely gobsmacked! Fair play.... I'd pay money for a bike like that. :eek:

well done rob.

rob
29-08-2006, 01:51 PM
Well done chap. I can now understand why, on another forum, you dismissed Vic Jefford's work as 'just tele-forked harley-clone chop/lowriders' . :)
i think the actual sentence was a bit longer than that....

pyro
29-08-2006, 02:06 PM
Smart matey, I'm going to clear my garage out and start building again, gonna have a hunt around for some pics of the stuff we used to build.
We built a bike out parts belonging to 400/500/550/750 sohc hondas with Vespa badges on the side panels, caused a lot of fun on Chelsea bridge.
Think there a photo somewhere.

Blue
29-08-2006, 02:25 PM
i think the actual sentence was a bit longer than that....

I believe so - it was posted on to me, it being from a site beyond my mortal reach - although that appears to be the sentiment. But I think the discussion from whence it came has been done to death now.

So, just one question...

What exactly do they put in the water down your way??? :confused: :D

Blue
29-08-2006, 02:26 PM
Smart matey, I'm going to clear my garage out and start building again, gonna have a hunt around for some pics of the stuff we used to build.
We built a bike out parts belonging to 400/500/550/750 sohc hondas with Vespa badges on the side panels, caused a lot of fun on Chelsea bridge.
Think there a photo somewhere.

I really shouldn't scan read stuff while doing other stuff. I first read that as you'd built Chelsea Bridge out of Vespa parts. I was really quite impressed... :D

pyro
29-08-2006, 03:09 PM
I really shouldn't scan read stuff while doing other stuff. I first read that as you'd built Chelsea Bridge out of Vespa parts. I was really quite impressed... :D

Well we dont like to boast.... :D but using matchsticks while on remand...

Urban Terrorist
29-08-2006, 03:18 PM
Looks good :D

Might have to grab my mates old GSX400 off him.................... :)

rob
29-08-2006, 03:21 PM
for the record, what i wrote was ; if you take all the blingy bits off micks bikes, and squint a bit, they're just, (probably not the right word), tele-forked harley clone chop/lowriders, its the bling that makes them note-worthy, not the radical engineering, (yokes with spikey bits are still just yokes...).

as for the water.... dunno, it must be the same everywhere tho, coz i've lived in a LOT of places....

Yoda
29-08-2006, 03:32 PM
(yokes with spikey bits are still just yokes...).



How Dare You
How Dibbly Dare you
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooo Insulted
Just Yokes
The are multi function leathal roadkill catching, anti pedestrian devices with a built in front end stabilising sytem :)

Urban Terrorist
29-08-2006, 04:07 PM
yoda, you need help mate :D

Blue
29-08-2006, 04:11 PM
yoda, you need help mate :D

That's definitely in the Top Ten of Stating The Bleeding Obvious Statements. :D

Urban Terrorist
29-08-2006, 04:26 PM
That's definitely in the Top Ten of Stating The Bleeding Obvious Statements. :D

Well your a close second :D :D

Blue
29-08-2006, 04:53 PM
What have I ever done to you???

Urban Terrorist
29-08-2006, 05:00 PM
No, it's what could have happened to you if you had picked us up for the rod and chop show :D

Originally Posted by Urban Terrorist
yoda, you need help mate

bad toad
29-08-2006, 10:26 PM
Okay, you're just pissing me off now ... :mad:

The bloke who was doing me Harris engine swap was supposed to have it finished at the beginning of June, but hasn't even touched it. He's only had it since December last year. :(
oi mr samson! jungle drums say its nearly done!!! :)

Nik
30-08-2006, 04:31 PM
oi mr samson! jungle drums say its nearly done!!! :)

Do they? Really? Cool ... better give 'em a bell and see what's what then!

Thanks!

:)

rob
30-08-2006, 06:24 PM
todays update...
no pics today, i've got broardband 'issues', and am half way through swapping providers, so dial-up only at the mo.
done the exhaust, a little stainless stubby link pipe so the carbon can sits behind the footrest hanger, rad's on properly, and filled with coolant, air filters are done, and the emissions gubbins fitted onto the engine.
the front end is assembled, brakes on and bled, and i started fitting a bandit belly-pan.
had to change the shock to one off a GSXR750 of some sort, the ST1100 one was too soft. the rear caliper mount is nearly done, the frames done and in primer, it looks very 'harris-y', i started making some bits for a big brace on the swing-arm and the loom is 75% done. another 6 hours today, 13 so far. i'll try and get some pics up by the end of the week.

rob
31-08-2006, 07:45 PM
only a couple of hours today, bringing the total up to 15, because of other comitments, but i'm onto final assembly already!!
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/Picture052.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/Picture053.jpg
i think its lookin good so far, best not speak too soon tho, eh! :)

davesatan
31-08-2006, 08:25 PM
i love it rob where are you based

rob
31-08-2006, 08:52 PM
north devon, on the edge of exmoor.

rob
16-09-2006, 04:29 PM
HEY EVERYONE, I'M BACK!!
did ya miss me? :rolleyes:
1st things first, Tiscali are a bunch of thieving, lying gits. (better put 'in my experience', to keep the mods. happy). i'm now with BT broadband, its faster and cheaper, and the call centres are in the UK, and they don't steal over £200 from you, lie about it, then cut you off when you cancel the D/D!
right, where did we get to? (scrolls back to read previous posts...).

the re-assembly...
here's what i do if the tank i'm using looks like the fuel outlets would have trouble supplying fuel to a moped...
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/Picture036-1.jpg
the nice, green matching front wheel that i sprayed silver when it was temporarily in 'illogical progression' was resprayed green and the front end put on. the rest of it went well, and soon i was wheeling a finished, painted and ready-for-MOT 'harris' style streetfighter out into the daylight.
i thought i'd call this one 'illogical aggression', seems apt as it's a streetfighter, and my other one's called 'illogical progression'.....
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/Picture040.jpg

then, a few days later, on the thursday before 'autumn 'nabd'ness', illogical progression went clatter-clatter-clatter-quiet.

bugger. :mad:

so, to keep myself busy over the weekend i dropped the swing arm and back wheel out of the (now knackered) RF, and thought i'd put it into the streetfighter........

have you ever started something, and then wished you hadn't??
i stripped out the deep-braced 'arm and standard ZX6 rear wheel, bored out the swing arm pivot holes in the frame, (the point of no return :eek: ), slotted the RC30 'arm in, and turned up a couple of spacers to line the wheels up. so far so good....
the shock mount on the 'arm had been offset previously on the other bike, so a new top shock mount was needed.
next job was to line the sprockets up, this required the engine to be offset 36mm to the left, which fouled the engine mounts on the frame, so i cut them off and moved them over, then turned up a complete new set of engine spacers. now the battery didn't fit, so it had to be moved to the right hand side of the engine and re-wired.
next, the combination of moving the engine and fitting a wider rear tyre meant that the silencer was rubbing on the tyre, so i had to cut the link-pipe off and re-angle it. then i found a better seat/tailpiece combination, which meant re-making the sub-frame. of course all this welding/ modifying of the frame meant a total strip and repaint....
including spraying the front wheel that i'd just sprayed green, back silver again! :rolleyes:
all of which took the total construction time up to 32 1/2 hours, or 3 good days (!!!). costs? well the numberplate cost £9.35 off e-bay....
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/Picture042-1.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/Picture041-1.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/Picture038-1.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/Picture036-2.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/flumpkins/Picture044.jpg

rob
16-09-2006, 06:04 PM
oh yeh, changed the insurance over from the RF, premiums down to £78.85p! :D :D

Urban Terrorist
16-09-2006, 06:14 PM
looks bloody nice that. When you matt blacking it though?!!! :D :D

Mitch
16-09-2006, 06:19 PM
Here I am... still sat here at work - IT bloke's on'y just arrived (Plate making machine was buggered)... paper's half hour or so late...

but at least I have something decent to look at!

That's cool! :D

addjunkie
16-09-2006, 06:27 PM
looks great and different .....different is very important in bikes....

Juke
16-09-2006, 07:17 PM
looks bloody nice that. When you matt blacking it though?!!! :D :D


Was gonna ask just that very thing UT!
Bloody well done Rob! Another reason to be very impressed by you..... ;) :D

teltwosheds
16-09-2006, 07:52 PM
thweet :D :D me like.

rob
16-09-2006, 08:09 PM
When you matt blacking it though?!!! :D :D

when it gets dirty, i expect.
i dont clean bikes, unless i've just bought it, then it gets serviced and cleaned, or if i've just built it, i build it clean.
when it starts looking all ****ty i'll slap a load of matt black over it with a brush.

fobonarex
16-09-2006, 09:02 PM
that is one unique piece of engieering,i like it,in fact im boffing mi cap to ya right now :D :D :D

baldybongo
16-09-2006, 09:21 PM
Nothing wrong with Tiscali, always been fair with us

rob
16-09-2006, 10:03 PM
Nothing wrong with Tiscali, always been fair with us
those two statements arn't necessarily connected, i don't doubt the second part, the first part i know to be wrong.

baldybongo
16-09-2006, 10:12 PM
No need to confuse me..... :)

Mitch
16-09-2006, 10:17 PM
those two statements arn't necessarily connected, i don't doubt the second part, the first part i know to be wrong.
Could be worse... could be Demon! been there before... (http://www.100-biker.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=323644&postcount=8)

baldybongo
16-09-2006, 10:24 PM
If you were really clever you would drive down here and take all my projects and replace them with that thing you call a bike.
I promise not to call the plod.........

Phone me first.......

rob
16-09-2006, 10:31 PM
certainly not!!

thats my winter hack!!

i will come down and collect all your projects, and your money, and give you back a couple of very bizarre bikes and a large pile of bits tho!! :eek:

baldybongo
16-09-2006, 10:36 PM
Now if you said a large pile of pills............

floris
17-09-2006, 05:40 AM
certainly not!!

thats my winter hack!!

i will come down and collect all your projects, and your money, and give you back a couple of very bizarre bikes and a large pile of bits tho!! :eek:

The more bizarre, the better :D

Urban Terrorist
17-09-2006, 07:08 AM
Rob, you coming up the Ace for the RatBike review?

rob
17-09-2006, 08:53 AM
depends how much cash i've got floating about at the time......
and that little 'fighter's not really a rat......

Urban Terrorist
17-09-2006, 08:57 AM
Budget biking though :D