Hazard Lights on Bike Trike

[RebuiltYorkie]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
Not true.
They are a retrospective fitting according to the MOT manual as of mid 2004.

Are the rules different for bike/trikes as for car/trikes?

I have been told that the new reg's do not apply to my twenty five year old bike/trike.
I have to have it Mot'd on Thursday, I 've been to see the guy twice, an' twice he said the new reg's don't apply?

I thought I would have ago at fitting them, anyway; I bought all the gear for the best (Key'd) set-up as in 100% 54. No bloody numbers on the indicator unit? That's me knackered! I ain't got a bloody clue?

I was told the same about hand brake to both back wheels! WHY? I mean are the rules, like the bible? The reader can interpert it the way he/she wants it to mean? Tottly confused, flumuxed and well an' truly peed off! If I could balance I'd buy a Go-Ped!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D No I wont I just thought I'd write that for a shock factor!

[RIDLER]

how good would it be if we all understood the MOT rules, as far as im concerned the laws seem to change from MOT station to MOT station. i built a chop gp100 of all things when i was a kid as my first bike and BLACKPIG helped me (big bruv), thanks by the way !!! :)
anyway one 1st MOT place said FAIL :mad:
went to another without doing anything to it and , WAHOOOO :D
IT PASSED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! magic.
doesn't answer ya post but had to get it in . sorry :rolleyes:
hope ya sort it out!!!!

[Mad Dog]

Not quite sure what yer post means RebuiltYorkie,

There are different requirements for Car or Bike based trikes,

but,

Alik posted on here several times and printed in the magazine last year that there were new regs coming in, of which Hazard Lights, Lap Belts for bench type seats and 2 mirrors would be a retrospective fitting item.

My local tester had to get the book out when I took a trike in and stated that 2 weeks earlier he would have passed it, but under the new rules he had to fail it coz it had a car engine and therefore required twin headlamps.
The crazy thing is, if it had a bike engine, it would only require twin headlamps if it was over 1700mm wide !!

This was the first test they had done under the new regulations and therefore we went through the book even measuring light positions with a tape measure.

The regs are there in Black and White - complete with diagrams.

[Alik Windrush]

Hey Mad Dog, your man was still wrong. The difference between a car trike and a bike trike has nothing to do with the engine that's fitted.
A bike trike has handlebars and "motorcycle type" front suspension.
A car trike can have a bike engine fitted (many do) but has bodywork and a steering wheel

[Mad Dog]

Hey Alik,

I wasn't entirely satisfied with their interpretation of "Car derived tricycle"
but,
had to go with what they said and put the twin lamps back on.
It was however a unique frame with all car gear, a very heavy leading link front end with tiller steering - which was surprisingly easy to drive and quite fun coz it really held the road with 3 Jaguar wheels and tyres.

Trikes are not my personal "thing", but I seem to be doing an awful lot of wiring on them.

I will find some time to go back down and thumb thru the book with them.

How about the retrospective fitting issue, Alek?

[RebuiltYorkie]

Cheer's Guy's
Mad Dog, I have read Alik's Trike Tech, I have found the whole thing of great help, and very, very interesting. I don't doubt that his pages are the very pages that the Ministery of Transport Test fellows should read (they'd learn sumat as well)

The Hazard thing started last week! After reading Alik's pages, buying the kit needed, a couple of months ago! I started to have a go fitting them? Only then finding that I couldn't work out what went where; due to there being no numbers on the original GL1000 Indicator unit/block? I decided to take the trike and the box of trike's down to the local garage (same place that Mot'd it last year) The Guy there is very helpful, I asked him to fit the indicator bit's and bob's. While talking to him he said if you want them fitted, for your own safty fine, but you don't need them for the Mot test ; due to age of the trike!

While there I told him that I had been working on the idea of making so the handbrake held on both back wheels? I went back a coulpe of day's later to book the trike in for the Mot, showed the guy that I had changed the handbrake set up! He said "why, I told you that it didn't apply to your trike due to it's age"? He then called on his two Mot tester's; both of them said the same!

I know I should just have said thank you very much! But I just want the trike to not only look right but work right (safely) to the benefit of all.

I am going to go ahead and get the hazard's fitted, I'll do it myself; I figure if I look at the new indicator unit, (this has numbers on) I should be able to work out what, and which terminal dose what?

Alik, I have learnt a lot from your pages, 100% is miles an' miles ahead of other biker mag's; because of the Trike, Bike Tech pages! I just lack the confidance, but learning and gaining all the time!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Cheers

Clive

Rebuilt

PS I'll let you know tomorrow if she fails! Wish us luck!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

[Mad Dog]

Appreciate your position RY.

Alik provides the very info that I think magazines should be doing, his articles and info are very well researched and conveyed in practical terms.
Many have done so in the past, but there is a whole lot of new people coming thru who have not had years of reading or knuckle-tearing hands-on experience.

If you are gonna tow a trailer with the trike, then I can recommend which Relay unit to fit.
NOTE:- when towing you must have either an audible or visible indication that your trailer flashers are connected when working.
Plus it is useful to fit a towing connector with a Fog Light cut-out so you don't get the glare from the reflection off the trailer.

If you want to post the numbers you can read off the indicator unit I can tell you which one goes where.

Like I said, I'm not a lover of trikes - coz I luv riding bikes,
but,
the SVA regs etc have resulted in the more than timely demise of the deathtrap bedsteads and resulted in a set of parameters that I find a challenge.
I like to build to the limit, eg my number plates are EXACTLY the legal size which means coppers have to get a tape measure out.

Gets my rocks off, that sort of thing. :D

[RebuiltYorkie]

Hiya Mad Dog

My GL 1000 bike/Trike, already has the Audio flasher fitted; I do however just happen to have another, off a car I rolled a few months ago. It was a write off, so I took the bits I thought would come in handy before they came to tow her away; CD player, towing gear & electric's, etc..

The numbers are:-
5, blade change over 87 to original ind/unit 49.

On the original indicator unit there are three pins/ternimals.

According to Alik's diagram, 31 is earth, 49a gose to indicator switch. There are no numbers at all on the original Indicator unit!

I know, it's got to be only one of three terminals, but which one? I got to admit to being a bit thick; :confused: I just don't want to blow the whole lot of wirring!

Cheers for help

Rebuilt